First an explanation to my overseas readers. Gillard (Labor) is Australia’s Prime Minister, and Abbott (Liberal/National) is the Leader of the Opposition.
Following is a letter to Gillard and Abbott from Mrs Jenny Bell, a 65 year old retired nurse who lives in the Barossa Valley in South Australia. Jenny has been an activist for our War Veterans since 2007 in their fight for proper and fair indexation. She firmly believes that we owe them, and this country owes them.
Jenny is a mother and stepmother of five children and a grandmother of seven children, who is very worried about what is happening in this country. She says that she will remain an activist for as long as she is above ground, because what she sees happening in this country is not what she wants to leave for her children and grandchildren to inherit.
This seems to put into words what I – and I am sure, many others of the silent majority – think! If it doesn't worry you what Jenny writes, then nothing will. – Werner
2) Lima Agreement.
This seems to put into words what I – and I am sure, many others of the silent majority – think! If it doesn't worry you what Jenny writes, then nothing will. – Werner
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Have also a look at these two links. 1) Problem-Reaction-Solution.http://www.openyoureyesnews.com/feature-articles/what-is-problem-reaction-solution/ 2) Lima Agreement.
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And now, Jenny Bell’s letter to Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott.
You BOTH worry me! (In fact, both of your Political parties worry the hell out of me!) Over the last three years, I find myself becoming more and more fearful of the pair of you and between you, you are turning this country, into a place that I no longer feel at home in or feel a part of !I watch you in parliament and no, not just the two of you, but every politician that I see, stand up in parliament sneering at each other and acting like children!!! (And if you were my children, I would be ashamed of you all, what an example to set!) Although you would like us all to believe, that you are putting the needs of this country at the forefront, NEITHER of you are doing that, you seem more interested in "one-upmanship", in scoring off each other and denigrating each other, to the detriment of this country and it's people!!!
It seems to be all about YOU as individuals and not about what you can DO for this country! It is fast becoming a place that I do not recognize as the place I always thought was the best place in the world to be!!! But no longer!!!
It seems to be all about YOU as individuals and not about what you can DO for this country! It is fast becoming a place that I do not recognize as the place I always thought was the best place in the world to be!!! But no longer!!!
You are not listening to the people of this country!!!
And here in South Australia, your counterparts, are afflicted with the same disease, is it endemic in all politicians?
I am watching the deterioration of living standards in this country (and according to you, on a world stage we are doing better than most countries ...REALLY???)...and yet the gap is widening between the" haves" and the "have-not's ", I see our homeless on the streets, our hospitals under funded and understaffed, our health system is an absolute mess and a disgrace ...and yet I see multi millions of dollars being sent off shore, in aid to other countries, before attending to this country's needs!! I see the "selling off of the farm", in large amounts, to foreign interests, (In every state) including water rights to foreign interests too - and WHY?
Especially when you go to great lengths to tell us, that water is a finite resource and supposedly, we must ALL be careful with how we use it, so that we ensure we have it for the future?
Foreign interests "Fracking" for coal seam gas and riding rough shod over farmer's rights to their own land AND USING QUESTIONABLE CHEMICALS, (You don't even KNOW what chemicals they use) and possibly causing damage to the water table in the process!!!
And those foreign interests, I believe, do NOT have to pay anything in royalties, back to this country, for the first five years of their tenure … IS THIS CORRECT???
A Carbon Tax, (which you KNOW is just another tax) and which will make NO appreciable difference, to carbon emissions AT ALL! A tax, which in spite of all your arguments FOR it, you are doing alone, when other major countries will NOT and DO NOT embrace it, or believe in it!!
All that will do for this country is put working families and small businesses behind the eight ball.... what planet are you on, if you think that your few hundred dollars a year, will make even a scrap of difference to the effect of the carbon tax on people? Blind Freddy can see the holes in that argument!!!! Do you really think we are that dumb????
The CONVOY OF NO CONFIDENCE was real!!! ...and I haven't spoken to even ONE person, who would not have liked to be there if they could, but the tyranny of distance and /or work, was the only thing that kept them away, (myself included) …and you KNOW that only a part of the convoy was actually allowed to be in front of Parliament house and ON VIEW ...the rest were streets away, unreported by the media!!
For Mr Albanese to stand up in parliament and call it "THE CONVOY OF NO CONSEQUENCE "in his sneering tone, shows just how out of touch with the people of Australia , you really are!!!! WE WOULD HAVE ALL, LIKED TO BE THERE!!!
DEFENCE. Because Americans are our Allies and we support them in Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan ....and you have sent our soldiers to those places and our soldiers fought for you and for Australia , ........some coming home with terrible physical injuries and some with devastating Mental Injuries as well, BUT WHERE ARE YOU, WHEN THEY NEED YOU?????
Especially when you go to great lengths to tell us, that water is a finite resource and supposedly, we must ALL be careful with how we use it, so that we ensure we have it for the future?
Foreign interests "Fracking" for coal seam gas and riding rough shod over farmer's rights to their own land AND USING QUESTIONABLE CHEMICALS, (You don't even KNOW what chemicals they use) and possibly causing damage to the water table in the process!!!
And those foreign interests, I believe, do NOT have to pay anything in royalties, back to this country, for the first five years of their tenure … IS THIS CORRECT???
A Carbon Tax, (which you KNOW is just another tax) and which will make NO appreciable difference, to carbon emissions AT ALL! A tax, which in spite of all your arguments FOR it, you are doing alone, when other major countries will NOT and DO NOT embrace it, or believe in it!!
All that will do for this country is put working families and small businesses behind the eight ball.... what planet are you on, if you think that your few hundred dollars a year, will make even a scrap of difference to the effect of the carbon tax on people? Blind Freddy can see the holes in that argument!!!! Do you really think we are that dumb????
The CONVOY OF NO CONFIDENCE was real!!! ...and I haven't spoken to even ONE person, who would not have liked to be there if they could, but the tyranny of distance and /or work, was the only thing that kept them away, (myself included) …and you KNOW that only a part of the convoy was actually allowed to be in front of Parliament house and ON VIEW ...the rest were streets away, unreported by the media!!
For Mr Albanese to stand up in parliament and call it "THE CONVOY OF NO CONSEQUENCE "in his sneering tone, shows just how out of touch with the people of Australia , you really are!!!! WE WOULD HAVE ALL, LIKED TO BE THERE!!!
DEFENCE. Because Americans are our Allies and we support them in Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan ....and you have sent our soldiers to those places and our soldiers fought for you and for Australia , ........some coming home with terrible physical injuries and some with devastating Mental Injuries as well, BUT WHERE ARE YOU, WHEN THEY NEED YOU?????
Veteran's Indexation to CPI only is a disgrace and is something YOUR Labor party, Julia, used as an election sweetener, to get the Veteran's Vote ...BUT YOU LIED!!!!!!
You never had any intention of honouring your election promise to them, and it WILL come back to bite you at the next election!!!! (And Tony, Liberals were NO BETTER, Howard had more than 10 years to "fix it" and didn't!)
You never had any intention of honouring your election promise to them, and it WILL come back to bite you at the next election!!!! (And Tony, Liberals were NO BETTER, Howard had more than 10 years to "fix it" and didn't!)
Veterans are not alone they have families, friends and supporters, who are heartily sick of the deception your party perpetrated on them, AND THEY ALL VOTE!!!! THEY are your obligation, first and foremost, and it is not your first obligation to give aid to every man and his dog overseas first!!!
Look after your own FIRST!!!! Is this what you call SALUTING THEIR SERVICE??? Have you any idea how sickening it is, for our Vets, to see you both, ( Labor or Liberal ) turn up to the funerals of our current young vets, for a photo opportunity, to be seen to be "caring", in the public eye but only to turn your backs on them all, when they need you??? (Just ask Breanna Till, an Afghanistan Soldier's wife, how CARING this govt is!!!)
And in light of what you DONT do, for our Vets, let's talk about Multiculturalism. People have come here from other countries for a better life, for more years than I have been alive (I am 65 years old!!) My own family migrated here in 1883, from Germany and did find a better life. Pre and Post war immigrants have came for a better life, and settled in and became wonderful contributors to this country as did those who came here after the Vietnam War, all have contributed to the rich diversity of this country and some descendants have even fought FOR this country and they have become Australians and were glad to be, and they had NO handouts from our Govt either; they worked hard for everything!
I have never had a problem with all, or any, race of immigrants coming here. However, I DO NOW!!!
Please tell me why we have areas like Lakemba, where police do NOT, and will NOT go, for fear of their life?
Please tell me why we can no longer have religion in schools, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone? (The latest little gem is that they are not having, or being funded, for "chaplains" anymore but "Counsellors"?)
Please tell me why religious Christmas observances, are no longer allowed in some schools for fear of OFFENDING someone?
Please tell me HOW Christmas decorations in some stores, might OFFEND someone?
Please tell me why we have to have segregated days in some swimming centres, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone?
Please tell me why we have some RADICAL clerics, demanding Sharia Law in this country, yet if we were in THEIR country, this would NEVER be allowed?
Please tell me why our laws need to be changed so as not to OFFEND someone??
Please tell me why we are fast becoming a MINORITY voice, in our own country because of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS??
Please tell me WHY, Australians cannot legally wear a face covering bike helmet into a bank and yet it is OK to wear a Burqa which covers the whole face?
And please tell me, WHY, when those people who want asylum here, can wreck our detention centres, as in Villawood and STILL be accepted here?
SO, in light of the above, WILL BOTH OF YOU ......Please tell me WHY, when some of our Vietnam Veterans FINALLY received (in the last 6 months) the recognition that they should have had, after the Vietnam War, (and which they received from the USA & South Vietnam, during and immediately after the Vietnam War), that the families of those Veterans were refused assistance by this Govt, to attend that award ceremony and yet this Govt ....flew, accommodated and even took on bus tours , to the families of asylum seekers, after the funerals of those who were killed, in the boat which sunk, off Christmas Island?
What does that say about just who are this govt's priorities?? The Australian people that I speak to, have genuine concerns about becoming a second class minority in our own country and the reasons for it, are some of the above. Are you so blind that you cannot see this?
And no, I am NOT racist!!!... (If I did not like Catholics or Protestants, would I be considered racist??) Of course not! Why is it that if we object to what is happening in our country, we are immediately labelled RACIST in an attempt to shut us up?? We are fighting Radical Muslims, in Afghanistan and Iraq, are we not?
I hear you say, "Yes but the Muslims we have here, are "Not like that "- well how would we know? Do we hear ANY of them coming out and speaking AGAINST radicals? I haven't, have you??? Islam is not compatible with ANY of the values that we hold here in Australia! Are not the experiences of Britain, France, the Netherlands or Holland an example of that? Why do you think it would be any different here? We even have an Australian born "radical", whose message is, that Australia WILL become a Muslim country, under Sharia Law and that we had "better get used to it".
Will both of you, grow some "Balls" and start sticking up for this country and its people??? We are the people who put you where you are and PAY you, to look after our interests!! ..And you are NOT doing that by any stretch of the imagination!!!
I would appreciate an answer, from both of you, if only to convince me that once again, I am not talking to a brick wall!
In case it has escaped both of you, I would like to remind you that, in Australia, the Government is FOR THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE and BY THE PEOPLE, you should never forget that because you sure have up till now!!!
Mrs Jenny Bell (Contact details have been removed.)
And in light of what you DONT do, for our Vets, let's talk about Multiculturalism. People have come here from other countries for a better life, for more years than I have been alive (I am 65 years old!!) My own family migrated here in 1883, from Germany and did find a better life. Pre and Post war immigrants have came for a better life, and settled in and became wonderful contributors to this country as did those who came here after the Vietnam War, all have contributed to the rich diversity of this country and some descendants have even fought FOR this country and they have become Australians and were glad to be, and they had NO handouts from our Govt either; they worked hard for everything!
I have never had a problem with all, or any, race of immigrants coming here. However, I DO NOW!!!
Please tell me why we have areas like Lakemba, where police do NOT, and will NOT go, for fear of their life?
Please tell me why we can no longer have religion in schools, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone? (The latest little gem is that they are not having, or being funded, for "chaplains" anymore but "Counsellors"?)
Please tell me why religious Christmas observances, are no longer allowed in some schools for fear of OFFENDING someone?
Please tell me HOW Christmas decorations in some stores, might OFFEND someone?
Please tell me why we have to have segregated days in some swimming centres, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone?
Please tell me why we have some RADICAL clerics, demanding Sharia Law in this country, yet if we were in THEIR country, this would NEVER be allowed?
Please tell me why our laws need to be changed so as not to OFFEND someone??
Please tell me why we are fast becoming a MINORITY voice, in our own country because of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS??
Please tell me WHY, Australians cannot legally wear a face covering bike helmet into a bank and yet it is OK to wear a Burqa which covers the whole face?
And please tell me, WHY, when those people who want asylum here, can wreck our detention centres, as in Villawood and STILL be accepted here?
SO, in light of the above, WILL BOTH OF YOU ......Please tell me WHY, when some of our Vietnam Veterans FINALLY received (in the last 6 months) the recognition that they should have had, after the Vietnam War, (and which they received from the USA & South Vietnam, during and immediately after the Vietnam War), that the families of those Veterans were refused assistance by this Govt, to attend that award ceremony and yet this Govt ....flew, accommodated and even took on bus tours , to the families of asylum seekers, after the funerals of those who were killed, in the boat which sunk, off Christmas Island?
What does that say about just who are this govt's priorities?? The Australian people that I speak to, have genuine concerns about becoming a second class minority in our own country and the reasons for it, are some of the above. Are you so blind that you cannot see this?
And no, I am NOT racist!!!... (If I did not like Catholics or Protestants, would I be considered racist??) Of course not! Why is it that if we object to what is happening in our country, we are immediately labelled RACIST in an attempt to shut us up?? We are fighting Radical Muslims, in Afghanistan and Iraq, are we not?
I hear you say, "Yes but the Muslims we have here, are "Not like that "- well how would we know? Do we hear ANY of them coming out and speaking AGAINST radicals? I haven't, have you??? Islam is not compatible with ANY of the values that we hold here in Australia! Are not the experiences of Britain, France, the Netherlands or Holland an example of that? Why do you think it would be any different here? We even have an Australian born "radical", whose message is, that Australia WILL become a Muslim country, under Sharia Law and that we had "better get used to it".
Will both of you, grow some "Balls" and start sticking up for this country and its people??? We are the people who put you where you are and PAY you, to look after our interests!! ..And you are NOT doing that by any stretch of the imagination!!!
I would appreciate an answer, from both of you, if only to convince me that once again, I am not talking to a brick wall!
In case it has escaped both of you, I would like to remind you that, in Australia, the Government is FOR THE PEOPLE, OF THE PEOPLE and BY THE PEOPLE, you should never forget that because you sure have up till now!!!
Mrs Jenny Bell (Contact details have been removed.)
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My thought for today. – Werner
No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. ~Abraham Lincoln
No man is good enough to govern another man without that other's consent. ~Abraham Lincoln
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31 comments:
Congratulations, Jenny Bell for having the intestinal fortitude and saying how it is. I, and most Australians will agree with your sentiments. We have to wonder how long we can put our thoughts into words in this country. Thanks Werner for publishing this letter.
This letter just about "sums it up"!
I have made sure that copies will be received by federal government ministers and to an international audience - as requested.
Jenny - congratulations and a very big "thank you" for writing the letter and a "thank you" to Werner for publishing the letter.
Well done!
Excellent Jenny, excellent! You said what we are all thinking, but don’t dare to say it. We are betrayed by our politicians and when they say that they are in there to make a difference; it means a difference for them and nobody else.
This was my reply to Jenny, as it was sent to her original addressees. Jenny is my mother-in-law and has my complete faith and support. My details are at the bottom of this post...
"Hear hear, well stated and aptly phrased…unlike some of the adjectives that have been used in the past!
I too believe that you have failed your communities, your electorates and your country by adopting the attitudes you have so clearly demonstrated. As an ex-serviceman with almost 30 years “under my belt”, I’ve had to work for successive governments regardless of their title, and I can’t really say with any certainty that I EVER noticed any difference once they took the reins. Collectively you have undermined the confidence of the Australian public for decades, in particular that of the Korean and Vietnam War veterans, who (quite rightly), expected far more recognition and assistance than they ever received from any political party. Certainly the conditions they now have, they gained only by the dedication and continued hard yards put in by many of them over many years. Both sides of the house only started paying attention when the general public began to take notice of their plight, and it was only then that the government rendered some little assistance and called it gross generosity.
As Jenny points out, we are not stupid. Do you really think that all of the spin doctoring has convinced us that you are doing the right thing for the country? Total BS in my book. I’d much rather you just came out and told us who’s up who and who’s paying the rent.
As for asylum seekers, or more correctly “illegal aliens”, your policies are just so much soap on a turd. Stick to the simple line…if they can’t prove who they are send them back; no stop-overs in the Whitsundays, no tourist trips to the east coast, no prolonged living on our territory and especially not at our expense! You know as well as we do what would happen if the situation were reversed…imprisonment or death, not pat on the head mercy. Stand up , be counted, and defend this nation’s sovereignty, AS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO! Put strong policies in place that will save this country, before it’s too late and we become another Atlantis, sinking forever beneath the waves. We Australians have seen enough of the spineless jellyfish kowtowing to big business and minority groups.
I’m not even going to get started on the Muslim issue, as there are far too many voices already out there. Suffice it to say that we are a democracy, and a free, and generous society. If these people either individually or collectively want to change our ways for theirs, there are two ways they can go about it, either force it upon us, or as will be the more likely method, take your places in Canberra, turning the underground car park in to a prayer room. They are already taking this path in the UK. If they refuse to assimilate and become good productive citizens of this great country, show them the door and let them set up camp somewhere else. We don’t need nor want them here.
My final point is also one of Jenny’s. I recently tuned in and watched Question Time…you know, “parliament in action”. I’d just like to say that from what I witnessed, the three year olds in Romper Room were better behaved and mannered then any of you (except possibly for those who were snoozing in the back benches). Why don’t you clean up your act so that you at least seem presentable and intelligent to the viewing audience.
Food for thought…
DAVE GABEL
Adelaide SA"
This letter says it all ! Many thanks to Jenny and Werner for putting it out . The answer to the many WHY's is that our politicians are selling us out to OWG dictatorship of the ruling elite mega-criminals ! Gradualism and social engineering have left the masses infiltrated with lies and misconceptions on all fronts . It is hard to find people that have fee and lateral thinking abilities and don't put their beer first . Yet these people are allowed to vote although they have no understanding of deeper politics . That is all by design and TY has been a major deception tool that most households use as their information source ! Insane !
Jenny my congratulations, I have been saying the same thing to pollies for years, but not as eloquently as you have done. I will be passing this on far and wide. It was only yesterday I told a young man
who is keen to become a politician that I trusted no party politics, and governments should be representing us the people who employ them. Unfortunately, there are "bond holders" we are run from offshore. Until we stop signing UN documents, we cannot be autonomous. I, LIKE YOU, LOVE MY COUNTRY - BUT AM FEARFUL OF WHAT DAMAGE GOVERNMENTS ARE DOING TO US.
What overseas perpetrators are manipulating economies. Charity begins at home and we should put our own matters in order before parting with our hardearned cash.
I AM ASHAMED OF THE PARLIAMENT ANTICS WHICH IS VERY UNAUSTRALIAN!!
thank you all for your comments...what we need to do , is try to combat the apathy from the general public , which sees people sit back and accept , because they think their voice wont be heard & they cannot change things WELL WE CAN , IF WE TRY !
Thanks so much Werner, for posting my original email, the replies and phone calls, shows me we are not dead in the water yet !!!
Could not have been stated better.
Both Governments (State and Federal) have sold out Australia. Our Parliaments are not worthy of that name. They constantly breach the Australian Constitution. There are those sitting in parliament who have no right to be there but as the public has been kept in ignorance of their rights under the Constitution these self-centred egoists are only interested in power and money and as a result have formed power groups who have taken over the government from the people. They do not truly represent our people. The constitution has been altered by stealth and without going to the people as is required under the Constitution. We have examples in Local government; an organisation that has no standing under the Constitution. In 1985 election, (I think that was the date) Local government lobbied to have parliament agree to include a referendum asking the Australian people to approve its inclusion under the constitution. It failed. However, I read somewhere that Local government interests intend to try again 2011-2012. I hope it fails again. We do not need another level of government to have the authority to make laws and impose taxes to satisfy the vested interests of minority power groups. Our government are happy to spend millions on supporting wars and bootlicking USA. It would be better to spend the money on our own citizens, make laws and provide support to keep industries here. Ensure that the sale of our resources is value added in Australia. This would ensure fulltime employment, ensure the money remains here. We should be providing a secure dental, medical and hospital system for everyone. Education is the right of every Australian yet it is being restricted to those who can afford it. This does not necessarily mean that the best brains have access. We neglect those who serve our country and when that service is over governments do what they can to avoid compensation. On the other hand, adequately look after them. You would think that the bureaucracy was spending his or her own money. Governments look at how to reduce funding to the weak and most vulnerable within our society. It is time for we, the citizens demand an end to the corruption, power goups and self-seeking. We might have difficulty achieving this until we demand our politicians listen to use and understand they are only public servants, (over paid ones if we judge by their productivity and performance to the Australian people.
John Wilson. Community Advocate
Why are we not being heard? Do they even acknowledge this let alone care, every Australian should read this.
I TOTALLY ENDORSE EVERY WORD!!!!
I agree with all the comments and with what Jenny Bell wrote among other things that, “. . . we need to try to combat the apathy from the general public, which sees people sit back and accept,” and I hasten to add,
I wonder if Jenny had any reply from Gillard or Abbott. Our politicians are letting us down; they represent their party and not their electorate. They never answer my mail to them and only take their ear plugs out four weeks prior to an election, after the election they forget you and insert their ear plugs again. In Queensland we have to go for the Queensland party that had been re-registered after the stupid unilateral McLindon merger with Katter.
As Deputy Chair of The Queensland Party, I would like to thank Carl for his mention of our party.
We are truly fighting tooth and nail for you all to have a real voice in Parliament, as Jenny and others are so fervently and rightly calling for.
Let me say firstly, as Carl has alluded to and with no doubt at all, that THERE HAS BEEN NO MERGER of The Qld Party (TQP) with Katter's Australian Party (KAP). If there were, I would have been at meetings to discuss this and there would be Minutes of such a decision.
There was no meeting, no minutes and NO MERGER!!
I do not intend to bore readers with what DID happen, but I do want to ask for your help to ensure the survival of TQP.
Any political party has to have either 500 + members OR a sitting member of Parliament before it can put up candidates for election.
Now that our former sitting member, Aidan McLindon has defected to KAP, we need to shore up our membership. We officially had until Friday 23rd (last Friday) to get up to 500 members and we well and truly did that. However, we still have until tomorrow (Monday 26th) to top this up.
This is very important as each member will shortly receive a letter from the Electoral Commission, requiring them to confirm they are members. You can imagine for a variety of reasons some members may not return that confirming letter. So it is important we have a buffer in the numbers.
The free membership drive has been extended until 30th October, HOWEVER, we need anyone who is considering joining to do that TODAY if at all possible. If it isn’t possible, we will still welcome you joining us to create the vision of political reform we all so desperately need.
Existing TQP policies can be viewed, and a membership form can be downloaded, by going to www.queenslandparty.org.au or by contacting me on 0418 196 011
I found the letter from Jenny Bell most interesting. You are not the only ones who are taking a disliking to politicians we don’t like or trust our politician in the USA either.
I also found the posting about the hibiscus tea very interesting. You have a very interesting and informative blog, Werner.
Absolutely correct in everything you've said!
Can we not all cut and paste Jenny's letter, and forward to every senior politician? Does anyone have their email addresses?
Neil - I have nearly all politicians e-mail addresses and I use them.
Rest assured that they received Jenny's letter - but we should not hold our breath waiting for a reply.
I will ask Werner to post some of the weekend news from New Zealand it could bring some joy.
I will also ask him to post the statement that was made by the NHMRC some years ago - I have sent them a mail asking if they are going to stand by the statement.
As they say - watch this space!
I realize that the points brought up by the writer constitute the concerns of a good many Australians, but the number of references to veterans and the closing quote from Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg address, together suggest that this email may have commenced life in the USA, considerably altered since.
Jenny Bell, judging by her blog and the comments she attracts, is, like a lot of us, a worried, powerless citizen, alarmed by what she “learns” from an inadequate media, more interested in scandal than journalism, more interested in sales than accurate reporting, and in the case of radio, more interested in notoriety and personal wealth and power than anything else.
Finding out the facts surrounding any issue is extremely difficult for we who are not trained researchers and are without the resources to undertake the research anyhow. Ms Bell’s complaints, as outlined in the first part of her email, seem to come from a very simplistic position. Most people below the median point on the income scale object to the widening gap in incomes, nearly everybody except international shareholders would like to see Australian companies, assets and it’s land, locally owned. Coal seam gas extraction and ‘Fracking‘ are probably unwise and dangerous, but there does seem to be actions being taken to examine these practices. As for the “Carbon Tax”, logic dictates that we all do our bit, both individually and as nations. In our case, if the money is collected locally and wisely spent locally, I see little grounds for fearing that the little people will be mortally wounded.
However, when she gets to the point of targeting Muslims, which seems to be the real purpose of this email, with this agenda hidden beneath an overlay of other emotional concerns, she adopts the technique used by the “shock jocks” of asking questions rather than documenting researched facts which support her contentions. Do the police fear to go into Lakemba? Does the attempt to remove religion from schools point to a Muslim campaign? Do we have segregated days in swimming pools or are we talking about solving a problem by after-hours use? Are our laws to be changed to satisfy Muslims more than Aboriginals, Jews, or for that matter, Christians? Is the odd Muslim extremist more dangerous than someone wearing a Swastika? Asking questions like this, and like I am doing, removes the need for research. But I will say without equivocation that this lady is a RACIST, whether she recognizes it or not.
Warner Dakin, Jenny Bell is definitely not a racist, just a good Australian who is aware what is happening in other countries that opened the doors to Muslim immigration, which they all regret – albeit too late. I urge Warner Dakin to read an earlier posting in this blog under the heading, “Muslims and Multiculturalism not a happy mix in some countries.”
Following are some excerpts. After you have read that particular blog entry let us know if Canadians, Germans, the Dutch, the French, the Danes, to name a few who had problems with Muslims are also racists.
The German Chancellor Merkel said: "Germany attempt at multiculturalism has 'utterly failed;' she wants immigrants to learn German.
The headline in the “Calgary Herald” - February 12. 2011 “Time to Change Tune on Official Multiculturalism.”
About one dozen families who recently immigrated to Canada are demanding that the Louis Riel School Division in Winnipeg excuse their children from music and co-ed physical education programs for religious reasons. The families believe music is un-Islamic ~ just like the Taliban believe . . . .
The school division is facing the music in a typically Canadian way – that is, bending itself into a trombone to try to accommodate these demands, even though in Manitoba, and indeed the rest of the country, music and phys-ed are compulsory parts of the curriculum.
Mahfooz Kanwar, a member of the Muslim Canadian Congress, says he has a better idea. "I'd tell them, this is Canada, and in Canada, we teach music and physical education in our schools. If you don't like it, leave. If you want to live under Sharia law, go back to the hellhole country you came from or go to another hellhole country that lives under Sharia law," said Kanwar, who is a professor emeritus of sociology at Mount Royal University in Calgary. "Immigrants to Canada should adjust to Canada, not the other way around," he argues.
Now, if Warner Dakin wants to read more and see what they have done in Holland recently, you will find it under the label “Canada” or just scroll down to older Posts.
I totally agree with the comment by Rita Smith.
To: Warner Dakin. The references to our War Veterans, is because they have been used, abused, and neglected, by successive governments, I have been an advocate for them since 2007, why wouldn't they be angry? A pensioner, or derelict on centre link payments, or even asylum seekers, gets more than they do!!
And how deserted & angry do you think they feel , when they see this govt , spend $1.4 million on cigarettes , for asylum seekers, or the $40 million dollars that K Rudd has just signed off on, for overseas aid , ...but the Vets are still overlooked !
Warner Dakin, DID YOU FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY?
Neither my Income stream , or where I find myself on the socio-economic scale , or my education level , have anything to do with this argument , and I object to you arrogantly assuming that it does ! I worked from the age of 15, until I was 65, I owe no one any money & I am ok thank you, but many thousands of Australians are NOT, and need help.
I belong to lock The Gate & they HAVE done extensive investigations, into the whole process, & the chemicals used, and the risks in those processes! I have also been present at a meeting with Santos, where explanations were not forthcoming , and were evasive at best , as to the risks in the decades to come, they were NOT able to fully answer those questions themselves , and until they CAN satisfactorily answer those questions , drilling and fracking should cease & our nation's Food Bowl , protected! This meeting was attended by Senator Nick Xenophon & a Greens Senator, as well as 100's of very angry people!
I suggest YOU do some reading & research , on Global Warming /Climate Change...Scientists in the beginning , tried to prove Global Warming ..but when the temperatures recorded , didn’t stack up to their research , (even though they have ADMITTED , to falsifying some evidence, in an attempt to prove their "Scientific Theories" ! ) they then called it Climate Change! Nothing that is happening now, hasn’t already occurred over millions of years, in normal, natural cycles , of warming & cooling ...the proposed Carbon Tax , is just that .. A TAX!
And will not make an iota of difference, to the world climate and is pointless, when just
1 Volcano, emitting gas, can wipe out 3 years, of whatever saving we make on Carbon Dioxide emissions.
Racism, is the card that every "Politically Correct” do-gooder, pulls out, to shut up dissenters, as I said in my email, if I did not like Catholics or protestants would I be racist? I have friends covering many races, all are welcome. Islam is NOT a RACE, it is a Whole Way Of Life religion, and we already DO have radicals here, (Benbrika for one) and the so called MODERATES, do NOT raise their voices against radicals! I haven't heard them do that, Have you???
The laws they want us to change, to accommodate them, to the detriment of our own way of life, is abhorrent to me, especially Sharia (which they HAVE said they want here) .
.I do not know , of any thinking Australian man , who has a wife and daughters , who would even countenance Sharia , or part Sharia here .
We could never go to their country & expect them to change, to what WE want; we would be killed for that!
Read the Koran & make yourself familiar with the Islamic agenda, ....and if what you have seen , in The UK , the USA, the Netherlands , France , Holland & Spain, are not enough to open your eyes, then you have your head in the clouds & I don't know what planet you live on!
As suggested on Werner's blog, at the bottom of my email. Look up a few sites on Google .AND LEARN SOME OF THE REASONS, FOR WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD.
1) Problem-Reaction-Solution
2) Lima Agreement
3) Bilderbergers
4) H.A.A.R.P.
JENNY BELL ,
Queenbeestings1@gmail.com
Good response to Warner Dakin's arrogant, sefl-righteous comment, Jenny Bell.
Hi Jenny, not a truer word spoken and all of Australia, I am sure agree as well.
I am disgusted with the Govt and the way Australians are treated by them and we all need to "get balls" and do what you have done.
We dont have any say and that has been confirmed and our rights taken away from us and handing it over to those who are "offended" by our way of life, yet come here because they dont like where they come from.
Great Stuff, Jenny.
Hi Jenny,
Warner Dakin called you a racist.
Would Warner consider himself a racist if someone came into his home and rearranged the furniture and he complained about it, or would Warner leave the furniture there and not complain?
Political correct B/S is nothing more than the stifling of FREE SPEECH.
We all have the right to free speech and to speak our mind under our constitution, the very right that political correct B/S is designed to deny us.
Rest assured Jenny that you have the support of the vast majority of true Australians.
Take care and all the best..
Angus..
Thank you Werner jennies letter is so representative of so many people in this country that cannot have their fears heard, I see people coming here illegally that have such an expectation that they know this stupid non elected gutless stupid government will fall over to make them welcome. We will end up in the same horror show/Muslims have made England.
PS. Norm Johnston please read annotation on bottom of text – do not use “anonymous” for sending comments. Werner the Blogger.
Hi All,
I just had a copy of the letter sent to me. The only issue I have it the criticism of the Carbon tax. Just because not other country is implementing it does not mean it is bad, wrong or will not work. Besides if we approached every problem with the attitude of so and so are not doing anything about it where would we be.
Talk to any real scientist esp those who have worked in Antarctica and you will soon see global warming is real. Talk to a marine Biologist and you will find out CO2 has a one two punch. Sure it is part of a cycle but if you look at climate history those cycle go from one extreme to another. As the CO2 levels rise the ocean will absorb more and more CO2 and become so acidic there will be no chance to fix it. Acidity in the seas has increased 30% since the start of the industrial revolution. Do we really want to take the risk of it getting to the point of no return.
We can't leave it up to the individual to do there part on their own. Most can not be bothered or walk around with the attitude of why should I care.
Climate change in regards to increasing CO2 levels is real and to deny it is ignorance.
It may not happen in our life time but it will happen. We have a responsibility to ensure the world is livable in 2100 and beyond.
Is see it much like our water problems.
Everyone knows that we will have water shortages at times yet as soon as water use restrictions are eased every dim witted Australian, and there are quite a lot, gets out and starts using as much as they can.
Shame she didn't say anything about the government not doing something about realestate agents inflating house prices by 30% or more with dummy bids, vendor bids, planted bidders, over quoting to sellers and under quoting to potential buyer and in adverts.
Or
Singles and childless couples being taxed to the eyeballs to pay for families esp the breeders sitting at home on the dole.
Chris, whatever we believe about climate change, I'm afraid I can't see how the carbon tax will make a lick of difference. Perhaps you can explain it to me.
Thank you Jenny, what a great open letter you wrote. I wonder if Gillard or Abbot have replied to it?
Thank you, Elena, for your compliment. No, I have not received a reply from Julia Gillard or Tony Abbott. Up to date I have received 2500 e-mails, but they still keep coming and I have stopped counting. I had more than 570 phone calls from all over Australia and New Zealand, plus 50 letters including one from Madrid Spain. Also had 4 radio interviews. I’m still busy trying to answer all the e-mails, but I haven’t even got to the letters yet. In all of those contacts, only 12 didn’t agree with what I wrote.
the lady caste to wide a net, and made some errors.
"Please tell me why we can no longer have religion in schools, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone ?"
Then why does the federal and state governments fund religious schools?
"All that it will do for this country is put working families and small businesses behind the eight ball, if you think that your few hundred dollars a year, will make even a scrap of difference to the effect of the carbon tax on people"
I doubt any business or family will go under over $200. especially as low income householders will receive extra government assistance.
Please tell me why we have some RADICAL clerics demanding Sharia Law in this country .... when if we were in THEIR country, this would NEVER be allowed ?
Its freedom of speech, the radicals are as allowed as the liberals to have their say.
Please tell me why religious Christmas observances are no longer allowed in some schools for fear of OFFENDING someone ?
That's a choice of the school and school council not government authority.
Please tell me HOW Christmas decorations in some stores might OFFEND someone ?
That's the choice of the store owner, unless this lady is suggesting government pass laws compelling stores decorate for Christmas? Golly that's like sharia (religious) laws.
Please tell me why we have to have segregated days in some swimming centres, for fear of "OFFENDING" someone ?
Which centres and are the "swimming" hours not outside normal opening hours?
Islam is not compatible with ANY of the values that we hold here in Australia ! .....Are not the experiences of Britain , France , and the Netherlands an example of that?
What about Northern Ireland with its Catholic versus Protestant sectarian war? Radicals come in all sizes.
Anonymous, your comment to "An open letter to Gillard & Abbott, from an Australia grandmother." Will not be published, my rule is clearly stated: “No Anonymous comments Please.”
I have to say, "BLOODY WELL PUT INTO WORDS,AND VERY WELL EXPLAINED TOO ! " I have to admit,after working in a detention centre up here inb the northwest of Australia, it's is truely disgusting as to what's handed to these 'ILLEGAL UNKNOWN GATE CRASHERS INTO OZ' just happen to be given, and have supplied to them. Knowing other aussies are waiting for appointments and treatment in hospitals here ! Even my own mother a war widow, sits and waits for a hip op in pain,and been told to wait... I ask is this Australia really trying to look after Australian's at all ? or rather earn some brownie points on the Corrupted UN COUNCIL ????? from:- derbyiter@gmail.com
If more details are needed to prove the above story!
Judy Doolan
Mildura
Congratulations Jenny for saying what we australians want to say but have trouble with the wording. You have covered it so well what is happenening in Australia, and I am behind you. agian I say thank you and I hope the Australian Government becomes truly aware what they are doing.
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